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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Agra talk and the May episode of outdoors on the farm. Thank you so much for tuning in. And let’s bring the guy in JT Gregor ceo of base camp leasing. Welcome back J. T. How are you? I’m doing great chip. Thanks for having me,
Speaker 1: yep. Glad that you are here dude, I got to give you an update, you know, last month we, I, we were talking about and I was
Speaker 1: like maybe over the
Speaker 2: top excited
Speaker 1: about having my, my nephew in
Speaker 2: for his first turkey
Speaker 1: hunt.
Speaker 1: We, we, we went on that turkey hunt
Speaker 1: And we got about 90% of what I wanted out of it.
Speaker 1: That sounds good. Yeah, yeah. We had the early morning experience. We had the, the, the birds were just lit up in the morning big time.
Speaker 1: So we had the, we had the audio side of things to go with it.
Speaker 1: We had the hands make a make a
Speaker 2: move bias, which is setting you up for the times.
Speaker 2: The toms
Speaker 1: hung up just a bit outside
Speaker 1: and it didn’t really matter what I did. The hands had already gone through. I got the toms to stop and take a look and think about coming up to us,
Speaker 1: but they just didn’t do it and
Speaker 1: off they went now. Yeah, we turned we turned that call
Speaker 1: into a bit of a crawl, a little person went in pursuit mode for a little bit. And we got to the point that we could, we had a really good look at the toms,
Speaker 1: but
Speaker 2: again, they were
Speaker 1: just a bit too far out, had four really beautiful times. So he got bit though, he got bit by the the the excitement of it all and you could see it in his eyes. Uh jt so I think I’ve got one that’s ready to come back for another try at it next
Speaker 2: year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you got him hooked based on all that interaction with the toms and hens and everything else. Um I would guess he’ll be excited for next year. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. All right, here we are. It is uh the 19th of May
Speaker 1: uh if we don’t have a food plot planted yet, we’re getting real serious about it. So
Speaker 1: what when you’re putting in your food plots,
Speaker 2: jt
Speaker 1: let’s go through
Speaker 1: the field prep. What’s your what’s your planning at this time of the year
Speaker 1: and what you’re hoping to achieve?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no that’s a great point. Um You know, typically you know in the spring a good good uh Foraged plant would be clover a lot of times guys use those in those kill plots inside the woods there typically less than one acre.
Speaker 1: Um You know if you’re gonna do corn and beans and that kind of thing, you’re usually better off and
Speaker 1: um in a bigger field greater than an acre. Um But you know to especially inside the woods, you know, getting a soil test done, um figuring out the right kind of fertilizers that you need to get the ph to the right level. All that stuff is really important and
Speaker 1: um if you do it right and you plant prior to a rain, you know, within a day or two, a lot of times you can get it to germinate really well and and hopefully if the summer doesn’t get too dry um the deer will be, you know feeding in there quite a bit and then early bow season, you know, you could have a real hotspot.
Speaker 1: Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you’re working with some of these smaller plots and
Speaker 1: inside
Speaker 1: inside
Speaker 2: the timber, like you said
Speaker 1: the kill plot,
Speaker 1: uh that clover, it
Speaker 1: it kind of manages itself, doesn’t it?
Speaker 1: It can um it’s a good idea, you know, 68 weeks after you planet to go in and mow it down to knock the weeds out and then it’ll thicken up really well to your point and
Speaker 1: a lot of times it’ll um you know prevent the weeds from coming in. Some people will obviously spray some of the weeds
Speaker 1: that’s doable as well for sure, but you know, even just mowing it down once, twice over the summer can be really productive.
Speaker 1: Okay. Alright. Yeah. So don’t just don’t just set it and forget it. You’ve got it does take some care.
Speaker 2: That’s right. You do have to spend
Speaker 1: a little bit of time,
Speaker 2: but that little bit of
Speaker 1: time can pay off
Speaker 2: really well in the fall.
Speaker 2: Okay. Now that larger plot that maybe you’re planting corn too,
Speaker 2: is it okay to go with multiple crops? You know, corn and soybeans, maybe two or three rows of corn, two
Speaker 1: or three rows of soybeans, something like that. Or or do you like that idea?
Speaker 1: A lot of people do that. They’ll they’ll definitely plant a variety of different types of, you know, plants because you want to stagger as late into the winter as you can. So, um you know, in the fall people will plant, you know, rye and other
Speaker 1: types of forage that’ll, you know, run clear through the whole winter time.
Speaker 1: Right. Right. And
Speaker 2: that’s when we get the turnips out there.
Speaker 1: Nebraska and and boy, uh we talked about that with my son. Tom
Speaker 1: about the success that he had with Nebraska plot and and it was in a kill area.
Speaker 1: And it really worked out well for him. So that’s
Speaker 2: another one to keep in
Speaker 1: mind. Okay, on your food plots. Uh you had to mention
Speaker 2: about
Speaker 2: creating some some site barriers with switch grass. Tell me about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I think it’s a good
Speaker 2: idea if you
Speaker 1: can on
Speaker 2: your plots where you’re
Speaker 1: gonna enter and
Speaker 2: exit if you can
Speaker 1: you know, use some switch
Speaker 2: grass. I like the cave in rock
Speaker 1: uh
Speaker 2: type
Speaker 1: um It works really
Speaker 2: well. Um plume grass also gets really tall but whatever you can do
Speaker 1: to kind
Speaker 2: of cover your entry and exit to
Speaker 1: avoid spooking the deer is really
Speaker 2: productive and and
Speaker 1: can really
Speaker 2: harvest.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Good idea, I love that, love that. Alright
Speaker 1: hey jt stay
Speaker 2: tuned here, let’s bring in Ed Griffin Ed is the Western regional manager
Speaker 2: Missouri leasing agent for base camp leasing Ed, welcome to outdoors on the farm man.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me chip. Yeah, glad that you’re here. Now from a landowner’s perspective, one of the reasons that they may be looking at getting into a lease
Speaker 2: with an outdoorsman if they’re not a hunter themselves is they may have a wildlife population and a deer population in particular that just really needs to be managed. Right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. So how do you determine if you’ve got too much?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean crop damage,
Speaker 2: too, too many deer. The key to anything is moderation. I mean for a good ecosystem on a on a farm. Um
Speaker 2: crop damage will be your number one indicator that you have too many deer.
Speaker 2: So you would definitely want to maintain a good healthy deer population, you know, by reducing mainly the dose,
Speaker 2: you know that
Speaker 2: the doe population. If you got too many you need to get rid of them. Hunters can help, can help a lot with that.
Speaker 2: Um, a lease on a property seems to, you know, limit the deer that are hanging out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah,
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Ed when I think about an outdoorsman, a hunter that comes in and wants to lease ground, I think about a trophy hunter that, that maybe that’s all bighorn is all they got on their mind, but that necessarily
Speaker 1: isn’t the case. They may be looking to fill the freezer with meat.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. That’s not always the case. I mean a lot of people do like big horns,
Speaker 2: but uh, there’s a lot of meat hunters out there that like to fill the freezer and, and the landowner wants some, some deer reduction. So just shooting one deer year doesn’t really work all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Especially if it’s
Speaker 2: carrying the horns
Speaker 1: around you, you may be working on the wrong
Speaker 1: on the, on the wrong sex there. You need to get to the does
Speaker 1: and it’s
Speaker 2: not just, it’s not just deer that we’re looking at managing populations out there.
Speaker 1: Uh, and I
Speaker 2: mean there there’s, well, what are some of the other critters that we need to be watching for?
Speaker 2: Well dear is the number one, but coyotes seemed to be a big problem these days,
Speaker 2: especially if you have cattle or other animals on the farm.
Speaker 2: Uh, the Kyle today, they seem to be populating pretty strong. So you want to control them too.
Speaker 2: Um, there’s even been a few domestic animals, you know, taken out by coyotes. So you definitely want to control coyotes for sure,
Speaker 2: yep. Um
Speaker 2: Dear & Kyle. So they’re number one.
Speaker 2: But I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you can go into beavers,
Speaker 2: muskrats, hogs,
Speaker 2: skunks, possums, raccoons,
Speaker 2: any of those animals that you have too many of you are going to have problems on your farm.
Speaker 2: Um
Speaker 2: And in trapping those animals is probably the number one way to limit the population of over population of those
Speaker 1: animals.
Speaker 1: Right? You know when we think about skunks, possum raccoons,
Speaker 2: um
Speaker 2: there’s, I think in some cases there’s an attitude of, oh, they cause a little bit of crop damage here. They cause a little bit of crop damage there. But think about what they’re doing to the nesting bird population. The ground nests out there, the pheasants, the turkeys, they come
Speaker 1: in, they can wipe out
Speaker 1: a nest in a matter of moments.
Speaker 1: Um And if they do get overpopulated.
Speaker 1: If you want to see
Speaker 1: a cruel uh management of, of a critter population that gets out of control, just let mother nature take care of it. She’ll bring in some sort of a disease. And that gets really nasty. So it it it makes sense and it makes for a healthier population
Speaker 2: if you’re in there and actively managing that population. Right.
Speaker 1: Ed.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Chip. I mean again, I moderation. I mean too much of one thing will definitely hurt your farm.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, real quick here ed tell me about the landowners that you are working with, What does that average piece of land look like?
Speaker 2: Well here in Missouri, I mean it can be it can be something from like 20 acres all the way up to 2000 acres. Northern Missouri, I mean you’re looking at more of uh road crops, crp rolling hills
Speaker 2: with limited woods,
Speaker 2: you know, western and southern Missouri.
Speaker 2: That’s the big Ozark land down there. So you’re looking at pasture and and big section of forest land
Speaker 2: um to round out the southern part of Missouri.
Speaker 1: Right? Um
Speaker 2: so it can be
Speaker 1: small, big,
Speaker 1: you can
Speaker 2: have a variety
Speaker 1: of real
Speaker 2: diversity here in Missouri for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And the J. T. The best way to find out if
Speaker 2: your piece of
Speaker 1: ground might be
Speaker 1: attractive to uh an outdoorsman or um or a hunter
Speaker 1: is just get in contact with you guys. Right.
Speaker 1: That’s right. You know, our website has
Speaker 1: um a lot of information for landowners at base camp policing dot com. There are forms that you can fill out and our agents will get in contact with you, explain the entire process. Talk to you about the income liability protection that we provide for free etcetera. So
Speaker 1: um you know, base camp leasing dot com is a great place to go to
Speaker 2: learn more about our
Speaker 2: very
Speaker 1: professional leasing services.
Speaker 2: Right. Right
Speaker 2: and get out there and get those food plots done if you’re getting ready you’re wanting to do some hunting this fall and take note of the populations of of critters and the deer that you’ve got around you and try to figure out if they need any management. Number one on that. If you think that you need some management, get your get your department of Natural resources
Speaker 2: officer out there who have them help you figure
Speaker 1: out just how
Speaker 2: much management you might need. And if you’re looking for a trapper, Ed States still have trappers Association’s don’t they? Yes sir. Missouri trappers Association is pretty big here.
Speaker 2: I mean they can guide you in any questions that you might have and they can definitely find you a trapper to help you out.
Speaker 2: Outstanding. Ed, It was good to talk with you man. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Alright. Jt
Speaker 1: we’ll talk to you again soon. All right, that is Jt Kreager ceo base camp leasing and Ed Griffin with base camp leasing as well. That wraps up the may episode of outdoors on the farm. Will be back with more agday talk in a moment.