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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Agra talk and outdoors on the farm. I’m your host, chip Flory. First guy I’m gonna bring in here is tom Flory. He’s on the outdoors on the farm team. And yes, the last name is no coincidence

Speaker 2: how you doing this morning bud

Speaker 2: good trying to stay dry. We’ve got the spring rain, but we still got the winter cold. That’s for sure. Yeah, that’s right, that’s right. So a little bit of snow on the ground this morning. But still I grabbed my cup of coffee as the sun was coming up, stepped out on the back deck tom and you know what I heard.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I’m sure they’re already starting to gobble.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big time, big time. And it’s the same place that they’ve always been for years. I, I mean we’ve, we’ve lived out here for 27. This will be our 27th spring

Speaker 2: and it’s the same way every year. So basically all I’m doing,

Speaker 2: getting ready for Turkey season is is seeing if the pattern is going to be the same as it’s always been

Speaker 2: and the gobblers are, are on the other side of a, of a creek right now

Speaker 2: and we’ve got enough hands around here tom and p I think people make

Speaker 2: make too much of an effort to get out too early in the morning

Speaker 2: to get out there and get those those times, because if you’ve got a bunch of hands around like we do in our timber

Speaker 2: as soon as those birds hit the ground, their hand up,

Speaker 2: they’re not they’re not going to leave those hands, are they?

Speaker 2: No, they’re they’re going to make sure that they’ve got the ones that are with, you know, their main group or their main flocks, but you might get one to run away every now and then. But

Speaker 2: it’s really hard with where we live. They’ve they’ve never came off of them and across that creek until late, late morning, early afternoon, like you’ve always said,

Speaker 2: yep. Yeah, that’s right. So you get, you know, it’s turkey hunting has always thought of as this early morning, you’ve got to be out there before the sun comes up and get ready to go at the Flory ranch, it’s a little different. And you can pattern the birds. Guys, do your scouting,

Speaker 2: do your scouting uh b where where you’re going to hunt in the evening, figure out where they’re going to roost, blow a crow call, blow an owl call, do something to get a reaction gobble from those birds as they’re in the roost

Speaker 2: and then if you can be there in the morning, figure out if they’re back where you put them to bed the night before,

Speaker 2: but make a pass by your hunting area.

Speaker 2: 10:00 AM,

Speaker 2: noon two o’clock in the afternoon. Do stuff like that because I tell you

Speaker 2: up here on top of the hill,

Speaker 2: what it takes a while for those, those toms to break away

Speaker 2: from those from those hands

Speaker 2: And by the time, you know, 10:00 to noon rolls around

Speaker 2: they’re often looking for another hand. Well you got a couple of decoys up, you do a little bit of calling

Speaker 2: and you can usually get them to walk in on your pretty decent. So

Speaker 2: yeah, that’s a little bit of turkey. Talk tom, let’s bring in Jt jt gregor base camp lisa. How you doing? Jt

Speaker 1: I’m doing great. Chip, how are you

Speaker 2: were doing real fine, real fine. So, gt what when, when you get out in the timber right now, what are you doing?

Speaker 1: Well, uh, we’re doing a lot of, you know, uh, work on tree stands from the prior year. You know, using the experience, you had uh, learning from some of the trails, learning from some of the ways to get into the woods and not bust dear.

Speaker 1: Get out of the woods without busting dear. That’s always really helpful. So

Speaker 1: moving around some stands in the springtime, you know, works really well. Um, putting out a lot of lime right now on food plots and and you know, a lot of guys do frost seeding as well. Um I did a little bit of uh some

Speaker 1: food plots screening with some switch grass this spring as well to again try to

Speaker 1: create a better way to get in and get out without spooking any deer

Speaker 2: tom. I know that you’re thinking about repositioning or adding some stands

Speaker 2: on your piece of ground. Why? Why? What, what’s uh what’s the reason?

Speaker 2: Well the first year that we owned it was 2020 and I had a

Speaker 2: carol camps set up in a really nice pinch point. But this pinch point was in the middle of two bedding pieces. And so I put an observation stand up there

Speaker 2: And I was about 30 yards too far to the northwest.

Speaker 2: So northwest winds,

Speaker 2: it was blowing right where all the bucks were doing most of their traveling on the downwind side of all that bedding,

Speaker 2: right?

Speaker 2: I learned a lot by sitting there a few times and I just got to move that another 30 yards down wind out of the way,

Speaker 2: so I’m not getting busted.

Speaker 2: And then

Speaker 2: another thing that I really want to do is I want to set up for an east wind.

Speaker 2: Um they don’t happen very often, but when they do it seems like those deer get up and start moving because it’s something different. You can’t really get a deer out of their pattern,

Speaker 2: but mother nature can

Speaker 2: so I’m going to get set up. We’ve got the river there on the west side of the property,

Speaker 2: get it set up where you can get in and out like Jt was saying

Speaker 2: without getting busted

Speaker 2: and I think that that’s going to be a killer for my property this year with my scent blown

Speaker 2: over the river and into the neighbor’s property. And

Speaker 2: even if it’s just a one or two sits out of the year, it should be good if you’re in the right spot, getting those deer coming off their bedding

Speaker 2: and cruising down on an opposite side of that bedding ground now that they haven’t done very often.

Speaker 2: Right, right. You know, Jt tom makes a good point.

Speaker 2: Uh you might move a stand for one or two sets, but if it’s the right set it’s

Speaker 2: worth every worth all the effort.

Speaker 1: That is absolutely one of the things that a lot of people do is they only set up their stand for the prevailing, you know, southwest west wind

Speaker 1: tom’s point on that east and northeast wind can be really helpful because a lot of times you get a cold front that comes in, the wind can switch around to that northeast

Speaker 1: and you know, those cold fronts can, especially in late october timeframe can really get the deer moving. So having that option to have a set up for, you know, the wind when it switches around to the east northeast can be really smart.

Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 2: Jt you said frost seeding, you, you were out doing some of that, explain that, what is it?

Speaker 1: Yeah, so that’s a good way to basically increase the production and the tonnage of the clover that you’re producing on your food plot. Um you know, a lot of times you get eaten down pretty well and so if you can go in there and frost seed

Speaker 1: in that mid March, you know, early april kind of time frame that can do provide a lot of benefit for your deer.

Speaker 2: Well and if it comes up quick enough

Speaker 2: greens up quick enough that the newest green in a in a timber plot is going to be where the turkeys go to.

Speaker 1: It could be as well. Yeah, absolutely,

Speaker 2: yeah, absolutely, yep, yep, tom, I know you’re thinking about doing a burn to on on a chunk of your ground.

Speaker 2: We were actually going to try to do it this weekend, but the wind doesn’t look right for us to get that done. A couple of things that we talked about if you’re gonna do a burn guys

Speaker 2: is mo the mo the border mold, the border may be more than once. Okay? And mow it wide enough that it can act as a break and give you an opportunity to drive in there with the side by side and a tank of water and keep that that fire under control.

Speaker 2: The other thing

Speaker 2: is

Speaker 2: we’ve got a friend that’s on the, on the fire department tom and it’s always a good idea to get them involved in a burn like this isn’t it?

Speaker 2: Oh yeah

Speaker 2: I’ve only been around one bird I think

Speaker 2: so. I’m no expert and I’m not gonna sit there and act like I am when it comes to fire out in a bunch of grass. You know I would rather have somebody that knows what they’re doing because with my property that grasses,

Speaker 2: I don’t know it’s

Speaker 2: I don’t know the last time if it ever saw fire and it’s plenty long that it’s not going to take very long to get going. And

Speaker 2: I don’t own all the ground just to the north of it. And I don’t feel like

Speaker 2: paying money towards something that I screwed up on because I wasn’t prepared for it.

Speaker 2: Right? Right.

Speaker 2: J. T. The point that tom just made right there is whatever you do to manage that ground, get some x get somebody involved that knows what they’re doing.

Speaker 1: Well sure that’s a really smart idea. Um It’s a good idea if you’ve got some buddies that are firemen or something like that. But I think your idea that you pointed out about, you know mowing down the edges or even tilling the edges of that food plot or something where that fire won’t

Speaker 1: hopefully you know leap across that and get into your woods or something like that. That could be obviously detrimental.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah no doubt about it. You don’t want to make a mistake.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Not when you’re not when you’re dealing with fire and and that has been proven time and time again

Speaker 2: tom what else are you thinking about on your piece of ground? I know I’m thinking about putting a fishing pole in my hand at some point.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah I still got a lot of trees to cut. I found more locust trees and I’m not a huge fan of those so I want to get more

Speaker 2: like I want to get more light to the ground and those are going to be the first ones to go. That’s for sure.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Other than that a lot of stand prep right now,

Speaker 2: right, right, the stand prep stand prep getting in position in the right position for this fall. What about you, J. T. What else you’re doing in the in the timber?

Speaker 1: Well so um the other thing that we can do here in Ohio and it depends on the state, right? Um you can put out some minerals um here we’re allowed to do that. I use trophy rock that works really well. It helps the, does you know when they’re

Speaker 1: um lactating and and so forth with their fawns. And it also helps bucks grow

Speaker 1: um you know better racks over time so that can be an added benefit. Um but you know to tom’s point, you know I’m doing a lot of work really with uh food plot preparation right now and tree stand relocation.

Speaker 1: Um you know that’s just based on the prior years experience and you know, learning from,

Speaker 1: well I was just a little bit too far away. I need to be in bow range and you know, if I can just move into this other tree, that will be a better setup for me this coming fall

Speaker 2: and obviously now is the time to do it, not the week before you want to get in the stand with a bow.

Speaker 1: That’s that’s right. There’s no sense. Yeah, you can set it up now, you can prune it out now so you’ve got good shooting lanes

Speaker 1: and you won’t be bumping the deer obviously prior to season.

Speaker 2: Good stuff. Jt Thanks buddy, appreciate you man, we’ll talk to you later.

Speaker 1: Thank you.

Speaker 2: All right tom we’ll see you soon buddy. Thanks man, appreciate it. Alright, that’s Jt Kreager base camp policing and outdoors on the farm team member. Tom Flory.